SALT LAKE CITY HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION
Meeting Minutes 451 South State Street, Room 326
A roll is kept of all who attended the Historic Landmark Commission Meeting. The meeting was called to order at 5:34:44 PM. Audio recordings of the Historic Landmark Commission meetings are retained in the Planning Office for an indefinite period of time.
Present for the Historic Landmark Commission meeting were: Chairperson Charles Shepherd; Commissioners Stanley Adams, Thomas Brennan, Rachel Quist, David Richardson, Esther Stowell and Paul Svendsen. Vice Chairperson Kenton Peters and Commissioner Sheleigh Harding and Robert Hyde were excused.
Planning Staff members present at the meeting were: Joel Paterson, Zoning Administrator; Wayne Mills, Planning Manager; Carl Leith, Senior Planner; Michael Maloy, Senior Planner; Anthony Riederer, Principal Planner; Amy Thompson, Principal Planner; Deborah Severson, Administrative Secretary and Paul Nielson, Senior City Attorney.
FIELD TRIP NOTES:
A field trip was held prior to the meeting. Historic Landmark Commissioners present were Rachel Quist, David Richardson and Charles Shepherd. Staff members in attendance were Joel Paterson, Wayne Mills, Carl Leith, Michael Maloy, Anthony Riederer and Amy Thompson.
The following sites were visited:
• 134 G Street - Staff gave an overview of the proposal.
• 134 N C Street - Staff gave an overview of the proposal.
• 1205 Second Avenue - Staff gave an overview of the proposal.
• 1117 E South Temple - Staff gave an overview of the proposal.
APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 3, 2017, MINUTES. 5:35:29 PM
MOTION 5:35:32 PM
Commissioner Richardson moved to approve the minutes from the August 3, 2017, meeting. Commissioner Adams seconded the motion. Commissioners Adams, Richardson and Stowell voted “aye”. Commissioners Brennan, Quist and Svendsen abstained from voting as they were not present at the subject meeting. The motion passed unanimously.
REPORT OF THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR 5:37:03 PM
Chairperson Shepherd stated he had nothing to report.
DIRECTOR’S REPORT 5:37:13 PM
Mr. Joel Paterson, Zoning Administrator, stated that the appeal for the Bishop Place
Demolition would be held on September 26.
The Commission and Staff discussed the following:
• If Commission member needed to attend that meeting.
o Staff stated it was not required for Commissioners to attend and a Public
Hearing would not be held for the items.
• The nature of the appeal.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD 5:38:42 PM
Chairperson Shepherd opened the Public Comment Period, seeing no one wished to speak; Chairperson Shepherd closed the Public Comment Period.
5:40:36 PM
Window Replacement at approximately 134 G Street - Rusty Carson, a contractor applying on the behalf of the property owner, is requesting a certificate of appropriateness from the City to replace three street-facing historic windows with new replacement windows of contemporary manufacture. The property is a single- family residence and is zoned SR-1A (Special Development Pattern Single Family Residential) and is listed as a contributing building in the Avenues Local Historic District. This type of project must be reviewed as a Minor Alteration. The subject property is within Council District 3, represented by Stan Penfold. (Staff contact: Anthony Riederer at (801)535-7625 or anthony.riederer@slcgov.com.) Case number: PLNHLC2017-00540
Mr. Anthony Riederer, Principal Planner, gave an overview of the proposal as outlined in the Staff Report (located in the case file). He stated Staff was recommending that the Historic Landmark Commission deny the petition as presented.
The Commission and Staff discussed the following:
• If the windows were on a rear facing dormer what would Staff’s recommendation
be.
• Why the windows are proposed to be replaced and the type of replacement window used.
• If the Applicant provided comparative window sections in their proposal.
Mr. Rusty Carson, applicant, reviewed the proposal, efficiency of the new windows versus the original windows. He stated one could not tell the difference between the replacement and the original other than a slight loss in glass.
The Commission and Applicant discussed the following:
• The options of window design and construction that would reflect the historic windows.
• The frame dimensions of the new window versus the original window.
PUBLIC HEARING 5:54:54 PM
Chairperson Shepherd opened the Public Hearing, seeing no one wished to speak; Chairperson Shepherd closed the Public Hearing.
The Commissioners discussed the following:
• The history of window replacement approvals and the regulations the Commission held to in the past.
• Would ask Staff to work with the Applicant to find a replacement that was in keeping with the historic windows.
• The replaced windows were original and with care they could last another hundred years.
• The issue of losing glass surface,
MOTION 5:58:13 PM
Commissioner Brennan stated based on the information in the Staff Report, the information presented, and the input received during the public hearing, he moved that the Commission deny the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace the historic front-facing windows as proposed in petition PLNHLC2017-00540. Commissioner Quist seconded the motion. Commissioners Adams, Brennan, Quist, Richardson, Stowell and Svendsen voted “aye”. The motion passed unanimously.
5:59:23 PM
Special Exception & Minor Alterations at approximately 134 N C Street - Vincent Oles, the architect representing the owner of the property, is requesting Special Exception and associated Minor Alteration approval from the City for a new two- story accessory structure that is closer than 10 feet to a primary structure on an adjacent lot. The base zoning for the property is RMF-35 (Moderate Density Multi- Family Residential). The Historic Landmark Commission has the authority to modify lot and bulk regulations through the Special Exception process. The subject property is within Council District 3, represented by Stan Penfold. (Staff contact: Amy Thompson at (801)535-7281 or amy.thompson@slcgov.com.)
a. Special Exception - Modifications to bulk regulations for a new accessory structure located closer than 10 feet to a primary structure on an adjacent lot. Case number: PLNHLC2017-00604
b. Minor Alterations - Request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for demolition of the existing accessory structure and the proposed new accessory structure. Case number: PLNHLC2017-00458
Ms. Amy Thompson, Principal Planner, gave an overview of the proposal as outlined in the Staff Report (located in the case file). She stated Staff was recommending that the Historic Landmark Commission table the petition as presented.
The Commission and Staff discussed the following:
• If accessory structures were considered contributing structures.
• The standards and process for demolishing an accessory structure.
• How the surveys affected the Commission’s decision regarding status of a structure and demolition.
• The height of the neighboring homes.
• The standards that applied to the proposal.
Mr. Vincent Oles, architect and Mr. Norman Weightsman reviewed the proposal, the history of the property and the reasoning behind the request.
The Commission, Applicant and Staff discussed the following:
• If there were plans to use the proposed space as a rental unit or Air B and B
o The applicant stated not at all.
• Was there consideration to only add the hobby shop and not have it over a garage?
• Staff’s recommendation to table the petition and if the Applicant was amicable to tabling.
• The impact the structure would have on the surrounding homes.
• Different designs and layouts that were considered.
PUBLIC HEARING 6:39:11 PM
Chairperson Shepherd opened the Public Hearing, seeing no one wished to speak; Chairperson Shepherd closed the Public Hearing.
The Commissioners discussed and stated the following:
• The design was appropriate for the neighborhood and would enhance the area.
• The current garage didn’t comply and the only exception being requested was for the setback.
• The proposal did not meet standard eight regarding compatibility with the primary structure.
• The vertical footprint was too much for the site.
• The standards that the proposal met and did not meet.
• The impacts to the surrounding homes needed to be taken into consideration.
• The proposed height and if it fit or did not fit with the character of the neighborhood.
• If there was options to build out and not up.
MOTION 6:55:01 PM
Commissioner Brennan stated based on the analysis and findings listed in the Staff Report, the information presented, and the input received during the public hearing, he moved that the Commission table the request for a Special Exception to modify the bulk requirements for a new accessory structure located closer than 10 feet to a primary structure on an adjacent lot, petition PLNHLC2017-00604, and associated Minor Alterations, including demolition of the existing accessory structure, petition PLNHLC2017-00458, to allow for revisions to the height that achieve an new accessory structure more appropriate to the scale and character of the site and surrounding development, to provide further study regarding the impacts to the structure to the east. Commissioner Quist seconded the motion. Commissioners Brennan, Quist, Richardson and Stowell voted “aye”. Commissioner Adams and Svendsen voted “nay”. The motion passed 4-2.
6:57:21 PM
Commissioner Richardson stated he was the applicant for the next item and therefore needed to recuse himself from the meeting.
Work Session 6:57:35 PM
New Garage under West Porch at approximately 1205 Second Avenue –David Richardson, Capitol Hill Construction, is requesting a work session to get preliminary review of a request to construct a garage under the west porch and section of the house, with a new driveway off U Street. This will be a work session review, no formal public hearing will be held and a decision will not be made at this meeting. The subject property lies within The Avenues Historic District (H Historic Preservation Overlay), is zoned SR-1A (Special Development Pattern Residential District) within Council District 3, represented by Stan Penfold. (Staff contact: Carl Leith, (801)535-7758 or carl.leith@slcgov.com) Case number: PLNHLC2017-00682
Mr. Carl Leith, Senior Planner, gave an overview of the proposal as outlined in the Staff Report (located in the case file). He stated Staff was requesting input from the Historic Landmark Commission regarding the petition.
The Commission and Staff discussed the following:
• The nature of the structures surrounding the site.
• The way the driveway interacted with the street gutter and if it was allowed under new construction
• If the applicant had considered a garage loaded off the driveway.
Mr. Damian Dingley reviewed the history of the property, the proposal, the, how it met the standards and improved the area.
The Commission, Applicant and Staff discussed the following:
• It was hard to have a home this grand and not have a place to park but then again the home was one of the best in the lower avenues, completely intact and to impact it was not the right thing to do.
• The proposal was probably the best way to add the desired parking to the site.
• Preserving the street tree was critical.
• The existing vegetation would shield the garage.
• If digging from the back of the home was an option.
• A full site plan would help the Commission evaluate the proposal.
• Consider removing the pool and put the driveway back in its original place.
• The proposal was not detracting from the home and improving historic homes was a good thing.
• Consider the character of the neighborhood regarding the impact of the driveway.
• Using similar materials as the home to help integrate the garage.
• Would like a more neighborhood context in the proposal.
• The oval window at the top of the garage made it feel out of balance.
• The lack of driveways on the street scape is a character-defining feature.
7:37:08 PM
The Commission took a short break.
7:43:44 PM
The Commission reconvened.
Commissioner Richardson returned to the meeting.
The Commissioners reviewed their interaction with the applicants and stated they did not have a financial benefit from the proposal.
New Construction Briefing at approximately 1117 E South Temple - Tariq Mughal is requesting a work session to get preliminary review of a request to develop a 12 unit apartment building with 12 parking spaces at the above listed address. This will be a work session review, no formal public hearing will be held and a decision will not be made at this meeting. This type of project must be reviewed as new construction in a local historic district. The subject property lies within the South Temple Historic District (H Historic Preservation Overlay), is zoned RMU-35 (Moderate Density Residential District) within Council District 3, represented by Stan Penfold. (Staff contact: Michael Maloy at (801)535-7118 or michael.maloy@slcgov.com.) Case number: PLNHLC2017-00560
Mr. Michael Maloy, Senior Planner, gave an overview of the proposal as outlined in the Staff Report (located in the case file). He stated Staff was requesting input from the Historic Landmark Commission regarding the petition.
Mr. Brian McCarthy, Mr. Luke Mughal and Mr. David Arnett reviewed the proposal, the design, and the history of the property.
The Commission, Applicants, and Staff discussed the following:
• The Special Exceptions required for the proposal.
• The setbacks for the proposal and if it met the standards for the zone.
• The windows located one foot from the property line and the review needed prior to approval.
• Rear yard grade changes should be considered to make a more functional back yard.
• The garage door should be as small as possible to have a smaller impact on South Temple.
• The roof top garden was a great idea but the pergola looked like an afterthought.
• The brick mass (iron stone brick) needed a rhythm to read in a much stronger way.
• Make sure the South Temple side fit the character of the street.
• How to draw from the surrounding buildings and use architectural elements to relate to the area.
• The massing of the brick and where to locate the shade feature on the roof.
• The parapet, windows, front entrance, lighting, railings, materials for stairs, garage entrance, retaining walls, balconies, signage, fence design, underground parking and the glazing on the street facing façade.
• Mass and scale was appropriate.
8:36:15 PM
September 2017 Chair and Vice Chair Elections - The Commission will nominate and vote in a Chair and Vice Chairperson. These individuals will serve in the positions from September 2017 to September 2018.
The Commissioners discussed nominations for Chair and Vice Chair
MOTION 8:36:38 PM
Commissioner Svendsen made a motion to appoint Charles Shepherd as Chair and Kenton Peters as Vice Chair. Commissioner Richardson seconded the motion. Commissioners Adams, Brennan, Quist, Richardson, Stowell and Svendsen voted “aye”. The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 8:36:58 PM